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6 reactions to '10 things you hate about your EMR'

November 21, 2011 | Michelle McNickle, Web Content Producer and Kelly Mehler, @HITNewsTweet

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Back in October, we asked industry professionals and our readers to share some of the things they hated most about their EMRs. Since then, comments, questions and disagreements have sparked a lively conversation, prompting a look back to our original article.

From the classic paper-versus-electronic dispute to debates over HTML5, our comment section was brimming with thoughtful feedback. Throw in some follow-up emails to our original sources, and we have six reactions to the 10 things you hated about your EMR: 

1. Debates over HTML5. One original point, stating that EMRs tend to be outdated, led to some significant discussions. Natalie Hodge, MD, originally said software written in any kind of language that’s more than four years old is an issue. “If you’re using a system that’s written in Delphi, and a lot of old legacy systems are, then you’re missing out,” she said.  “Everything is moving to mobile, and systems should be headed toward HTML5.” Commenter Untangledjs, though, felt otherwise. “What enterprise-level programming language out there is less than four years old?” he questioned. “HTML5 is not a programming language, it’s for structure and presentation. There’s an actual programming language behind it doing all the heavy work to supply the calculations and data for HTML5 to make pretty.”

When we followed up with Hodge and asked for her reaction to Untangledjs’s comment, she wasn’t surprised by his response. “Your audience is widely healthcare-based, which is PC-oriented, so my views are perhaps as heresy,” she said. “[Untangledjs] is absolutely right: HTML5 is about structure and presentation, two of the key features missing in many of the software programs I’ve used in the past. Usability is defined by the users, not the guys in suits who are sitting in nice cushy offices contemplating how much of a bonus they will be giving themselves at year’s end.”

2. Paper vs. electronic. In our first bullet point, which stated some EMRs don’t measure up to paper, Shahid Shah, software analyst, expressed how frustrating it was when “developers and other IT professionals assume paper records and medical grade documents aren’t as important as structured data.” Deborah Peel, MD, added that EMRs were never built to comply with patient’s rights to privacy as opposed to paper medical records. Commenter danielgarcia, though, immediately dismissed their urgings that paper is somewhat better than electronic medical records. “Anyone who says that paper is better than electronic has no argument,” he wrote.

“You cannot start your argument by claiming that a paper process, which is slower and more cumbersome than an automated computer process, is better," he continued. "Without EMRs/EHRs, we have no argument … safety measures are there for patient information, more so than a paper one. You can present digital COT and NOPP forms to patients the same way you do with a paper and secure them better and retrieve them better. Advantages of a computer over paper, one storage, one managed approach, quick accumulation of data, and that means an improvement to the entire cycle of care.” Commenter SheaPF agreed. “Some of the statements are valid, but keep in mind with paper there is no progression or room for improvement,” he wrote. “It will never get better only worse but with EMRs, especially if they're Web-based.”

3. You don’t have to live with these issues. Commenter Awesterink said that, although he sees the point of our coverage, he believes there are solutions available that can alleviatethe issues we documented. “It is very important to go into the EHR selection process as educated as possible in order to select a system that will minimize these all too common issues,” he wrote. Kelly Mehler, our social media producer, responded. “I agree that in order for EMRs to be successful, everyone needs to be on board when it comes to the implementation and training,” she wrote. “Maybe that's where organizations can improve.” 

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Reader Comments (5)Login to Post a Comment

jtlanahan says: EMRs
December 09, 2011 | 3:07PM GMT

I couldn't agree more with almost all of the posts. In my estimation, even the "best" EMR vendors offer products geared solely to the collection of data, which in itself, is an important purpose but one that should have been informed (as other commenters point out) by the interests of the users. If there's a unifying principal underscoring the development of these products it's this: there is no unifying principal. As a result of trying to be all things to all users and stakeholders, these vendors have created Frankenstein platforms whose utility decreases with every attempt to satisfy the latest and most discrete "HIT" app of the moment.
"Meaningful Use" has only exacerbated the problem and actually exposed the broader ineptitude of the market. Its benchmarks seemed so modest: report on patient allergies; BMI info: smoking cessation; etc. These are criteria that in any other industry could be satisfied by a simple box for a user to select "yes" or "no." Instead, EMR vendors lobbied the gov't to offer nearly $20 billion in incentives to providers willing to invest in their products to achieve.
The bar is so low that vendors effectively pitch and sell MU solutions that only nominally "satisfy" these criteria and even then only a fraction of the time (a laughable admission of incompetence that HHS countenanced in regulation).
I know I've over-simplified the problems and solutions but in a marketplace so rife with what most would consider the brightest minds, it is a sad state of affairs. The promise of accelerated adoption HIT is a noble one and, like all subsidies, profound inefficiencies are a certainty ("If you wanna make an omelette"). However, unless the incentives in MU are restructured to shift the incentive away from providers' demonstrated "use" to the vendors' "meaningful solution" the payoff on the investment will be further in the future.

dch says: Work for ... ?
November 22, 2011 | 4:55PM GMT

As I prepared comments for this article, I grew to realize a simple point.

Success is finally achieved when EHR technologies clinically work for me more than I work for them.

Dr Duncan says: Good point dch
November 23, 2011 | 12:22AM GMT

As I have tried to point out before, "Meaningful Use" of the EHR will help healthcare when it works for the doctor - or in other words, helps the doctor help the patient. It may help the PCP but I question how much it helps a specialist such as a surgeon who provides episodic care in conjunction with the PCP who is providing the comprehensive care. Try getting the doctors in a large multispecialty clinic to get enthused about, or just tolerate, "Meaningful Use."

Doug Duncan MD

CoreyJ says: Can we all agree that patien care is a priority?
November 23, 2011 | 11:36AM GMT

I am curious, does anyone believe patient care should be foremost priority for all in the healthcare field? Isn't this enough to be an incentive to accept and adopt positive change?

I ask any paper based physician to quickly show me patient outcomes for the last year in less than a minute. This is just a minute example of the detriment of quality of care that is reduced in a paper office. Not to mention the exchange of all pathology results to reduce costs of "over ordering".

More often than not, the complaint by the provider is that the office is slowed down by the advent of an EHR system. It seems the underlying issue is not that the office "slowed" down, but they they have a loss of revenue by seeing less patients. But that is not really the case because most provider just spend less time with the patient to keep the same volume.

So is patient care really the priority?

dch says: Yup
November 28, 2011 | 8:43AM GMT

The medical profession has no raison d'etre apart from patient care. So, yes, we get it. It's about taking care of patients. No patients, no medical profession.

HOW the medical profession chooses how to do this is not up to the technical IT profession ... or the politicians and bureaucrats, who know even less about the real implementation of IT in the clinical world.

Can you imagine a mechanical engineer or office cubicle bureaucrat mandating a surgeon's use of a certain type of instrument? Do you tell your mechanic what tools to use to work on your car, or in what order to disassemble the engine?

That's what's happening with EHR technologies. A premature, expensive, productivity leeching, fiddly, complex technology is being foisted upon the medical profession because OTHER people (non-clinicians) are convinced it will improve the care we provide to our patients - all on faith at this point. Outcomes data are decidedly mixed. Costs are decidedly high. And privacy breaches have been massive, on a scale impossible to reach with paper records.

Please don't mistake our misgivings about all this for lack of concern about our patients. It's rather presumptuous of the non-clinical, insular coding-gnomes and salespeople to assume their products are that important to patient care. All they have to offer are tools. If the tools are not useful enough to justify the cost or risk, we shouldn't use them.

Healthcare providers write the checks to buy EHR technologies. We are the customers, not IT. (It's been my experience that some IT personnel get that backwards.)

Anticipating a common argument here ... the patient is a *beneficiary* - and not the primary EHR customer. In a similar manner, the patient benefits from a surgeon's decisions re: what O.R. equipment to buy, but does not make the actual purchase.

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